[WikiEN-l] Notability and ski resorts (was: Newbie and not-so-newbie biting)

[Charles Matthews]

Surreptitiousness wrote:
> Andrew Gray wrote:
>   
>> I think we can easily distinguish, though; the
>> notability-by-association thing really needs most of the set to be
>> desirable topics for articles (*most* ski runs are interesting, or at
>> least let us assume they are for this discussion!) and for that set to
>> be well-defined (you can always tell if a ski run is in Australia or
>> not).
>>     
> Yes, this is exactly the sort of gradation we should have and should be 
> able to implement, but is also the sort of gradation that the 
> NOTINHERITED group of editors seek to stamp out. The notability guidance 
> has also become a spanner in the works of Summary Style.  You can't now 
> split an article up if it is too long unless you split it in a way such 
> that each separate article is notable by itself. And even if you manage 
> to do that, there are editors who will accuse you of forking.
>   
Rightly, in my view. I come down on the (conservative) side of this 
discussion, and agree with the now-ancient decision that article space 
should not admit subpages (which is what subarticles without credible 
free-standing topics amount to).

Charles