[WikiEN-l] Newbie and not-so-newbie biting

[Charles Matthews]

Steve Bennett wrote:
>
> But you question whether it's even encyclopedic. Apply the specialist
> encyclopaedia test: would a specialist encyclopaedia about skiing in
> North America list this ski area? It ought to. So the answer is yes.
>
>   
Hmm, could be wrong, here's a webpage says "Kettlebowl: World’s Greatest 
Family Ski Hill". Oh, no, look who wrote that though ...

I don't ski. You are partly arguing that there should not be a 
notability guideline for skiing sites. And partly that a specialist 
skiing encyclopedia should be a directory of just about all skiing 
sites. I'm not really in a position to argue, since I'm not familiar 
with that sector of reference literature. The usual test is that there 
is such a book and it does include Kettlebowl.

I would certainly argue that

- Kettlebowl the hill as geographic feature is probably a topic to 
include, just that it should be treated as such without the promotional 
overlay this guy wants about it;
- If the material on Kettlebowl had been placed in [[Bryant, 
Wisconsin]], we would have had one better article, not two scrappy ones.

I think skiing fans should not be allowed to chip away at minimum 
standards for inclusion just because they are, well, fans of skiing. 
WP:NOT says WP is not a directory, after all.

Charles




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