[WikiEN-l] Secondary sources

[wjhonson at aol.com]

 Jay you are confusing "source-based research" with "original research".
If you research something to *confirm* it by researching in sources, you are not doing original research.? If you research it by repeating experiments then you would be.
I doubt that any textbook author confirms their sources by repeating the experiments.

Will



 


 

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From: Jay Litwyn <brewhaha at freenet.edmonton.ab.ca>
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I agree with Gerard on this. Textbooks are typically loaded with primary 
sources, and the textbook is a secondary source, even if the author of the 
textbook did some orijinal research to confirm what the primary source 
said -- does not mean that research was reviewed. As far as private 
definitions are concerned, if there is a key difference between yours and my 
definition, it can be either inconsequential in a context or a key point of 
difference in a conversation. Every debate leads to confusion. If you are 
lucky, it does not lead to polarization.
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>I dispute that this is my private meaning.
> And I propose that this is the standard meaning.
> As well as the inworld meaning.
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>> What I said, and what I've been saying is that any source which is our
>> first incident of a particular "fact" is a primary source, no matter
>> what their source was.
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> You must appreciate, though, that your private definition of this term
> is not the established meaning for this term, which has been in use
> since well before Wikipedia started. And that using private
> definitions of terms without acknowledging doing so only leads to
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