[WikiEN-l] Newbie and not-so-newbie biting

[Carcharoth]

On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Emily Monroe <bluecaliocean at me.com> wrote:

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> I can't help but notice that the author of this article keeps trying
> to add articles that aren't to our standards. Maybe make people who
> are writing their first (or second, or third, if the first or second
> is deleted) article go through the article wizard? That way, some (or
> perhaps all) of his articles would've eventually been deleted, but at
> least they would've been sourced and at least somewhat of a NPOV?

It's not the article that matters here - others can come along and
tidy it up later. What matters here is getting people started off on
the right footing, and explaining things to them. Forcing someone to
go through an article wizard is a "one size fits all" solution. The
best approach, in nearly all cases, is personal and friendly
interaction, helping people improve.

When you say not to our standards, are you expecting a minimum
standard from new editors? If so, then the problem goes all the way
back to this:

"Welcome to Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit."

That gets people excited when they realise it is true. They really
*can* edit it. Imagine the let-down they feel when they discover that
actually, there are loads of good and bad checks and balances in place
that actually make contributing quite difficult.

And of the two articles mentioned, Kettlebowl seems OK for what it is,
and the other one is fine as well:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raptor_Education_Group_Inc.

Carcharoth