[WikiEN-l] "Well-known"

[Durova]

For the most part this barely merits consideration.  We're a wiki.  When
someone's idea of a well-written sentence differs from mine they're welcome
to revise it.

Two pet peeves:
1. POV-pushers who use 'copyediting' as a pretext to insinuate content
changes.
2. Copyeditors who don't actually copyedit but instead install themselves at
featured content processes, telling other people what to do.

-Durova

On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Steve Bennett <stevagewp at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Charles Matthews
> <charles.r.matthews at ntlworld.com> wrote:
> > Clearly, though, this is a cultural matter. "Readability" in this sort
> > of sense is conditioned by the expectation that the written language is
> > very close to the spoken language, for example, which is something for
> > which you can find widely varying types of cases if you go to different
> > languages. (It is hard to imagine this thread going the same way with
> > French speakers, in particular.)
>
> Dunno. I've written technical documents in French. I'll say this:
> French grammar is harder than English grammar, with more clear-cut
> rules, and many French people make mistakes. They frequently use
> constructions such as "Après qu'il soit là", which is technically an
> error (though I seem to recall the Académie Française eventually
> conceded defeat on that one...)
>
> > On the topic, "most known" occurs frequently in enWP, rather than "best
> known". I would change that. And, sadly, "more known" also is common,
> > rather than "better known". I think for the latter one can speak frankly
> > of a grammatical error: "known" is a participle rather than an
> > adjective, while "well-known" is certainly an adjective, with
> > comparative and superlative forms.
>
> Hmm. "Known" looks and behaves a lot like an adjective there. I don't
> think I'd write "most known", but I wouldn't be rushing to correct it
> either. I guess I'd see it as an example of poor quality writing
> rather than an error as such.
>
> Steve
>
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