[WikiEN-l] Deletion of unreferenced living person biographies

[Phil Nash]

Andrew Turvey wrote:
>> ----- "Surreptitiousness" <surreptitious.wikipedian at googlemail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Since prods can be undeleted by any admin without any
>>> kerfuffle, I can't see the harm in allowing a second bite at prod.
>>> Have we discussed amending PROD to allow second bites?
>>
>> I think sometimes people forget that we have over 100,000 active
>> editors, only just over 1,500 of whom are admins - less than 2%.
>> Non-admins can't even see deleted articles let alone restore them or
>> discuss them. That's the "harm" of allowing re-proding of contested
>> deletions - it excludes most of the community from the discussion.
>>
>> Andrew

I agree, up to a point. Requests for undeletion of PROD'ded articles to 
admins in my experience are treated with courtesy, and some are userfied to 
deal with the reasons for CSD/PROD. If they then don't make it, fair enough, 
but in my experience those requesting undeletion/userfication are those who 
created the article in the first place, or a different editor with a perhaps 
better information to hand to establish notability. However, many 
inexperienced editors create articles without a full understanding of 
[[WP:GNG]] and its specialist project-based criteria; PROD, like CSD is a 
little of a blunt instrument, but you'd think a week should be long enough 
to alert article creators, and interested parties, to react accordingly. I 
would agree. however, that PROD, once declined, should trigger AFD, because 
there is obviously a debate to be had, and we cannot reply upon eternal 
vigilance or even substantial commitment from volunteers, and that includes 
admins.