[WikiEN-l] deletionism in popular culture
Samuel Klein
meta.sj at gmail.com
Sat Oct 31 06:44:37 UTC 2009
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 11:46 AM, David Goodman <dgoodmanny at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I do not consider that trivial. The deletion of improvable articles
> because the small number of participants at AfD who are interested
> and willing to rescue them is one of the reasons for people losing the
> interest in Wikipedia. Who after all actually wants to come to
> articles for deletion, but those who want to delete articles.
>
>
Good point. I've often thought something like 'jury duty' for newcomers,
after your first few weeks editing but before you stop being flagged as a
'newb' by the site software, might involve a few days of sharing your common
sense at AfD.
Though I still like the idea of changing the name to Articles for Review,
encouraging eveyryone who likes cleanup to hang out there, and turning AfD
into the much faster-process group that figures out /how/ to properly delete
articles that have no other option. [so anyone could close an AfR
discussion, but only people with delete rights could close AfD; they'd have
to know how to decide whether or not to delete talk pages, &c &c. ]
Ryan Delaney opines:
> I agree. Pure Wiki Deletion is the only permanent solution.
Now that's a lovely perennial idea. There's no point in hard deleting any
article save to protect private information in the history. You can pure
wiki delete; or even pure wiki delete and protect the blank page; but
removing the work done from view of interested passers-by is wholly
unnecessary.
SJ
> David Goodman, Ph.D, M.L.S.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DGG
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Steve Bennett <stevagewp at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Ok, here's a hypothetical. Let's say out of any twenty given AfD's
> > that close as "delete", it turns out we get one "wrong". Is that
> > acceptable? Deletion is hardly the end of the world in itself...
> >
> > Steve
> >
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