[WikiEN-l] strategy.wikimedia.org - slightly overwhelmed by discrepancy between "interactive" proposals and wikimedia goals

[Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton]

> It looks like you've added comments to the talk pages of these
> proposals already,

 yes - rather a lot, more than i normally would, and i feel i'm taking
on a bit too much.

> which is probably the most helpful and relevant
> place to do so.

 ok.

> The other thing that could be helpful would be
> starting a separate page just to compare, contrast and discuss these
> related proposals.

 ahh.... this?

 http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Interactive_Strategy_Observations

> There could be a separate task force just for these issues (media
> support), as suggested here:
> http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Emerging_strategic_priorities#Other_Task_Forces
> and that might be a good place to discuss such things with other
> interested parties. I think the page just needs to be started.

 ok.  i added the page with a note "placeholder" and i've noted the
existence of http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Technology_Infrastructure_Task_Force
so thank you for drawing my attention to that.

> (note: for anyone interested in a general class of proposals like
> this, the task force pages listed at
> http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Emerging_strategic_priorities all
> need to have links to the relevant proposals added to them, and new
> task forces can be started).

 ahh..... waitwaitwait ... i've seen one of those... yep:
 http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposal:Foundations_for_Interactive_Articles

 i'll see if i can find others.


> Also, as a general gentle reminder, I don't think any of the proposals
> you list were made in bad faith; someone clearly thought there were
> benefits to be had as well,

 yes, definitely.  the presentation of some kinds of scientific and
mathematical material can definitely benefit from an interactive or
complex display: it's just that the risks and costs of using flash,
java, silverlight or other browser plugin are just way too high to be
worth it.

> and maybe those benefits and (alternative)
> ways to get them would be worth focusing on.

 yes.  that's kinda ... yeh :)

 thanks phoebe.