[WikiEN-l] Date conditional switching templates

[Luna]

I've whipped up a quick example at <
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Luna_Santin/Dateswitch>, currently:

   - {{#ifexpr: {{#time:U| {{{date|{{{3|}}}}}} }} > {{#time:U}} |
   {{{pre|{{{1|}}}}}} | {{{post|{{{2|}}}}}} }}

Which would give us:

   - {{dateswitch | text before date | text on or after date | date}}

This might have some problems with page cache, and honestly I'm a bit
dubious about its utility, but from a template standpoint it shouldn't be
too hard.

-Luna


On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 10:41 PM, stevertigo <stvrtg at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Carcharoth <carcharothwp at googlemail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Better to say "as of <DATE>, this is known". That way the reader knows
> > they are reading something written at a certain date, and editors know
> > from what point they need to carry on updating. If things change, the
> > conditional template will be saying the wrong thing. I'm also wary of
> > having templates spit out article text, as changes to the template
> > will affect not only current versions of the article, but also the old
> > versions of the article if you look at them in the page history.
>
>
> "As of" is great for ongoing concepts which require only occasiona updates,
> but that convention doesn't deal at all with the problem that we make dated
> statements because we have to, but this leaves the problem that they must
> then be manually updated. We don't for example say:
>
> "As of May 2009, the 2009 Wikimania will be held on August 26-28, 2009."
> Different concept altogether, though they are indeed both date-related.
>
> Better to do something like:
> "Wikimania {{dateswitch|is scheduled to begin on|began on|August 26,
> 2009}},
> and {{dateswitch|will run until|ran until|August 28, 2009}}"
>
> Or (simpler):
> "Wikimania {{dateswitch|will run from|ran from|August 26-28, 2009}}.
>
> Producing:
> ante) "Wikimania will run from August 26-28, 2009.
> post) "Wikimania ran from August 26-28, 2009.
>
> BTW, a bot can cull any templates which have been switched to their post
> position, replacing the tag with plain text. And we use in-article
> templates
> all the time now, anyway, so I dunno what your concern was there. The real
> concern should be in removing any such outdated phrasing, and making the
> usage of tense clauses less of a hassle, and more uniform.
>
> -SV
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