[WikiEN-l] Dispute resolution mailing list

[Emily Monroe]

> We usually employ the idiom "two cents," but you are right - "voice  
> [to] the
> conversation" is formal and probably translates quite well. "Adding  
> my two
> rupees.." probably doesn't mean anything.
I like formality--plus I tend not to use idioms online. Even in an  
English forum, we'll have people who don't read English well, or who  
can't interpret metamorphic speech very well.

> Ah. But could you please clarify what specifically you mean by the  
> terms
> "too much" and "can happen"?
"Too much can happen"=What I've already said, actually. I've read a  
little in the arbcom archives, and know people sometimes won't  
participate in their own RfC, or won't comply with whatever consensus  
there is (that was achieved through DR). If people won't participate/ 
cooperate with something most definitely *on wiki*, why would they  
participate on something that talks about Wikipedia?

Emily

On Jun 28, 2009, at 1:37 PM, stevertigo wrote:

> On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Emily Monroe <bluecaliocean at me.com>  
> wrote:
>
>> Just to add my voice in the conversation...
>>
>
> We usually employ the idiom "two cents," but you are right - "voice  
> [to] the
> conversation" is formal and probably translates quite well. "Adding  
> my two
> rupees.." probably doesn't mean anything.
>
> I also don't think it's a good idea to have a mailing list to have
>> dispute resolution to happen.
>>
>
>
>> *About* resolution is another
>> matter--I have no opinion about that.
>>
>
> Think of it like a patch of sky (mailing list) where the eagles  
> (helpers)
> could see things better (overview): They would still have to fly  
> down to
> Earth (wiki) to do their hunting (dispute resolution).
>
> We can also discuss dispute resolution issues in general, though  
> there are
> probably a few yokels who think dispute resolution is perfect and thus
> doesn't need improvement, and thus think discussion about its  
> improvement is
> unnecessary.
>
> If you are already a bit familiar with our DR process(es), you might
> understand there are general issues that need to be dealt with.
>
> Too much can happen.
>
>
> Ah. But could you please clarify what specifically you mean by the  
> terms
> "too much" and "can happen"?
>
>
>> People will be unable or unwilling to join, etc.
>
>
> Well I agree there is a little technical issue here, and this is a  
> criticism
> Ive had of IRC for a long time; that it exposes people's IPs and  
> therefore
> they might not want to participate. Not everyone wants to show their  
> emails.
> But we can set up a way to submit emails to the list through the  
> wiki. A
> "dres-l" user account has just been set up on the wiki. I can set it  
> up to
> forward any messages to the "dres-l" list, I think. IIRC the form  
> masks the
> email address, but shows the username.
>
>
>> I also find it kind of ironic that a discussion about dispute
>> resolution will cause a dispute.
>>
>
> The word is "iconic." Not "ironic." "Ironic" would be if George  
> Takei came
> back from the dead to edit his article, and we banned him for lack of
> reliable sources.
>
> -Stevertigo
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