[WikiEN-l] A new solution for the BLP dilemma

Durova nadezhda.durova at gmail.com
Fri Jun 5 22:06:28 UTC 2009


Negative information was sourced to talk shows in the form of copyvio
rehostings on YouTube of uncertain veracity in violation of WP:LINKVIO and
WP:RS.  The editors who wished to use those talk shows were invited to
obtain legitimate video or transcripts, and never did so.

Of course, as we all know digital information never gets manipulated in
misleading ways.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jimbogoesswimming.jpg

-Lise

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 2:42 PM, <wjhonson at aol.com> wrote:

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Durova <nadezhda.durova at gmail.com>
> To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
> Sent: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 12:43 pm
> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] A new solution for the BLP dilemma
>
> Of course ArbCom doesn't ban someone merely for correcting BLP
> problems; no
> one suggests they did.
>
> :The subject himself is no boy scout.  When he gained attention a ghost
> from
> his closet emerged, and his attempts to deal with the resulting
> problems at
> Wikipedia were so counterproductive that he got sitebanned.
>
> BLP problems did exist, though--very serious ones.  For example,
> negative
> information was being sourced to non-notable forums where the harasser
> had
> impersonated the article subject.
>
> The subject was trollable, and got trolled.  Wikipedia should have been
> able
> to resolve that mess without so much wasted time on everybody's part.>>
>
> --------------------
>
> Whether anyone had impersonated the subject or not is speculation
> without any evidence other than the subject himself.
>
> That his bank account was "cleaned up" or whether it was even related
> to his article is again speculation without any evidence other than the
> subject himself.
>
> Negative information was sourced as well to nationally syndicated radio
> talk shows.  As you recall.
>
> Matt is not an example of what you're trying to accomplish.  He did not
> want his article removed (initially), what he wanted was a whitewash.
> However he went on record stating that he used to be a male prostitute.
>  Investigations turned up his newspaper advertisements and his website
> advertising his sex services.  Those were linked directly to his own
> address and phone number.
>
> The world in which we actually live, is one in which most people can be
> tracked, knowing only a few pieces of data.  This has occurred a number
> of times in-project and out, as you know.
>
> No one makes your bed except you yourself.
>
> Again this isn't a good example.  I'm sure you should be able to find a
> better one.
>
> Will Johnson
>
>
>
>
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