[WikiEN-l] IRC Group Contacts Surgery, August 2009

[wjhonson at aol.com]

Why couldn't the logs be released to the public ?



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From: FastLizard4 <fastlizard4 at gmail.com>
To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:27 pm
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] IRC Group Contacts Surgery, August 2009










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It should be noted that you can, like every other freenode user that
wants to keep logs, establish a connection and keep your very own.  For
example, I have a ClueNet shell account, which is very convenient for
this purpose, to which irssi stores all of my logs in ~fastlizard4/logs.
 If I ever want to search the logs, all I have to do is open up nano and
use the search function, or simply `cat ~/logs/channel.log|grep 'Search
string'`.  You simply cannot release these logs to the public (under
current policy).  In irssi, to start logging, all you have to do is
'/log open -autoopen -targets #channel ~/channel.log' and that channel
will be logged.  Similar commands exist in every IRC client that I know.
 It may not be totally "open" as you desire, but anyone can do it and
have there own set of logs.
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- --FastLizard4 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:FastLizard4 |
http://scalar.cluenet.org/~fastlizard4/)

WJhonson at aol.com wrote:
> A few years ago, I had asked that IRC have a searchable archive of
> discussions.  I was told that there were daily logs and I could get 
one if  I
> asked.  I asked, and was denied.  Until IRC commits itself to  
openness, it
> should have little to no impact on any facet of our project.   
Without
searchable
> archives, IRC is not open in the modern sense, regardless of  who or 
how
> you can join it, or view it.  The archives of this mailing list  are
> searchable.
>
> Will Johnson
>
>
>
> In a message dated 7/30/2009 8:21:43 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> sean at silentflame.com writes:
>
> Greetings,
>
> The IRC Group Contacts decided last year to hold  a surgery every 
three
> months where general IRC matters could be brought up  for discussion 
in
> an environment in which IRC people able to put those into  action
> (which includes all the contacts themselves) were present  and
> involved. Regrettably it took just over a year for the second  meeting
> to be organised, but this pattern will not be  repeated!
>
> Therefore we invite you to  visit
> 
<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC/Group_Contacts/Meetings/August_2009>
> and  sign up for the meeting if you are someone interested in how IRC
> runs and  especially if you are responsible for one or more channels.
> That page will  shortly contain procedural information on how we 
intend
> to structure the  meeting to get the most out of it. For convenience, 
I
> shall note that the  meeting is at 1900Z on 3rd August 2009 in
> #wikimedia-irc-meetings on  freenode.
>
> Yours,
>
> Sean Whitton (seanw on IRC)
> For the IRC  Group Contacts
>
> I have posted this message to the main public mailing  lists to which 
I
> subscribe and would appreciate circulation of the  meeting's existence
> to as many other languages/projects as possible as this  is open to 
all
> - but please note that the meeting will be held in  English.
>

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