[WikiEN-l] Blocking / moderation
Fred Bauder
fredbaud at fairpoint.net
Tue Jul 28 11:51:46 UTC 2009
Steve,
Let's take this discussion to Wikipedia talk:Dispute resolution and work
it out there. That talk page itself involves certain restrictions, but I
think from there we could establish some appropriate forum for regular
on-wiki discussion of dispute resolution.
Fred
> Stevertigo:
>
>> And of course this violating concept appears to be indemic wherever
>> people feel they can neglect transparency - as mandated in their own
>> mandates, perhaps - making their deliberations in private and giving
>> people only decrees and motions. Wales, who was for a long time our
>> most upstanding proponent of openness, and who made it a point to deal
>> personally and openly with nearly every issue that came up - on this
>> very list, as a matter of fact - would be quite unhappy with this
>> trend.
>
> I like transparency too.
>
> It makes me pause to wonder whether a dispute resolution mailing list
> is actually against the grain of that. I've only recently signed up to
> a couple of the mailing lists as I intend to get (and am getting) more
> involved with Wikipedia. These lists have a pretty low profile, I'd
> say.
>
> Whilst these mailing lists are, I believe, open for everyone to join,
> it still strikes me as a bit of a back door: I would have thought it
> far more transparent to deal with all dispute resolution on the wiki
> itself where people can see what's going on (and people can place
> relevant links easily) rather than in an email list which is going to
> have a rather different audience.
>
> To put it another way, if I were an editor in dispute with someone
> else and I wasn't subscribed to the mailing list and I become aware
> the other person was discussing it there, I think I'd rightly feel
> that there was something "going on" in a sort of conspiratorial way
> and that a conscious effort had been made to circumvent tackling my
> points.
>
> The wiki (en, at least) doesn't seem short of ways and means to deal
> with disputes. I'm somewhat sceptical about the motivation in creating
> a new channel for disputes that requires all parties to sign up for an
> email service to be fully cognisant of where that dispute is heading.
>
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