[WikiEN-l] Effect of Index

[Samuel Klein]

I'd love to see the internal search become the best way to find real-time
new changes to articles -- and even add features for collaboratively
improving common search topics.

SJ


On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 6:12 PM, FT2 <ft2.wiki at gmail.com> wrote:

> While the future isn't yet known, at present internal search is only
> accessible as a specialist "wikipedia search engine".
>
> For better or worse it's like any forum search; in that there is no major
> external interface and it has not become widely relied on like google or
> similar as a routine port of call for anyone seeking in-depth information
> on
> a person (the main reason for NOINDEXing of pages).
>
> An employer for example is far more likely to use google or yahoo, than
> wikipedia internal search, partly because of prominence, familiarity, lack
> of awareness, and because most people checking if someone's "known" online
> don't exhaustively search every place they might have an account -- they
> google them or look on major social networking sites. Wikipedia is big, but
> it's no more a routine "major social networking site" than many others. In
> that context myspace, facebook, blogs, spidered news media, and personal
> web
> pages are far better known and used.
>
> Should that change and Wikipedia become a prominent "first place to search
> for non-notable people one knows or might be interested in who might have a
> real-name mention on there as an account owner" (not that likely) then at
> that point NOINDEX might conceivably switch to signify "don't return this
> in
> an internal search if the user isn't approved/is unconfirmed/isn't an
> admin,
> or whatever it at that point. Or there might be a list of "terms not to
> return on NOINDEXed user and project pages" that would mean someone
> searching for an incident as an incident might find a page but someone
> entering a real name as a search term would not. But that's not presently
> on
> the horizons.
>
> Some thoughts.
>
> FT2
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 8:08 PM, <WJhonson at aol.com> wrote:
>
> > Why couldn't a person simply scan userspace using all sorts of  searches
> on
> > "the" and "and" and so on, and simply repost the entire contents  with
> deep
> > links to an external indexed page?
> >
> > No indexing and then allowing internal searches anyway seems like hiding
> an
> >  elephant behind a bucket.
> >
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