[WikiEN-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: switch to HTML 5

[Carcharoth]

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Aryeh
Gregor<Simetrical+wikilist at gmail.com> wrote:

<snip>

> The following errors are caused by the content on the Main Page, and
> *must* be fixed by enwiki sysops:
>
> Attribute cellpadding not allowed on element table at this point.
> Attribute cellspacing not allowed on element table at this point.
> Attribute align not allowed on element div at this point.
> Attribute clear not allowed on element br at this point.
>
> These attributes are among those removed in HTML 5.  They were already
> deprecated in XHTML 1.0 Transitional, which we currently use, and are
> removed in XHTML 1.0 Strict.  (The software doesn't need significant
> updates to be conformant HTML 5, because it already avoided deprecated
> elements in almost all cases.)
>
> So these just need to be replaced by CSS.  align="right" should be
> basically the same as style="float: right"; clear="all" should be
> identical to style="clear: both"; cellpadding and cellspacing may
> require a little more fidgeting.  Someone should do this who's good
> with CSS -- maybe I'll rope a dev-sysop like Werdna into it.  (There
> are these rare cases when enwiki sysophood will be useful . . .
> perhaps I'll try RFA again someday.)

<me thought you were already an admin>...

> It should be easy enough to do for someone who knows enough about HTML
> and CSS.  It's not a big project that needs a lot of help, just
> something we need one person to spend half an hour fiddling with.

Any of the admins who worked on the Main Page (re)designs should be
confident enough to do that. Almost any en-wiki admin you ask to do
this will sandbox it first, as causing the main page to go wrong gets
en-wiki admins sent to the stocks to be pelted with rotten fruit. :-)

I suppose you could ask here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Usability
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Usability/Main_Page/Draft

There was a redesign proposal in 2008, but I never quite kept up with that.

Anyway, as you only want tweaks, you could also ask at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page

Strangely enough, even though posting in the "errors" reporting
section of the talk page for the Main Page is the wrong place to post,
you are most likely to find admins there who are not scared of editing
the main page.

Carcharoth