[WikiEN-l] Wikipedia:News suppression (was: News agencies are not RSs)

David Goodman dgoodmanny at gmail.com
Wed Jul 1 16:39:42 UTC 2009


The best way is keeping this so exceptional that we do not even make
rules about it. People will always go outside of the rules if they
think there is a true emergency.  Even were we to say, never do it,
yet people would if they think it justified.

David Goodman, Ph.D, M.L.S.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DGG



On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Durova<nadezhda.durova at gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes, there's a slippery slope nearby.  Welcoming ideas that would give the
> soil good traction.
>
> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:24 AM, David Goodman <dgoodmanny at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 1/
>> when people should be "protected", is  not self-explanatory.  Some may
>> feel that
>> people are best protected by knowing the full truth in all cases.
>>
>> 2/
>> "doing right" is even more ambiguous of a concept than "improving the
>> encyclopedia";
>> the reason we have actual rules is that people will not always agree
>> about such generalities
>>
>> Some of us may think "doing right" is publishing everything known to
>> be verified; others, only those that
>> lead to desirable social consequences. What constitute desirable
>> social consequences is also not a
>> uniform concept, or there would be no political differences.
>>
>> The  present government of China would completely agree with these
>> principles for the flow of information,
>> and the leaders there undoubtedly think they apply them in practice.
>> Probably the Taliban would also.  So would
>> anyone who thinks that only those doing right ought to be permitted to
>> communicate--this is the basic characteristic
>> of repressive governments. .
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> David Goodman, Ph.D, M.L.S.
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DGG
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Ken Arromdee<arromdee at rahul.net> wrote:
>> > On Tue, 30 Jun 2009, Durova wrote:
>> >> With respect and appreciation extended toward Apoc2400, it's dubious
>> that
>> > there would be a need for a separate policy to cover this rare situation.
>> > At most, a line or two in existing policy would articulate the matter.
>> >
>> > How about this as a start:
>> >
>> > -- Modify WP:NOTCENSORED to say that Wikipedia is censored in rare cases
>> in
>> > order to protect people.
>> >
>> > -- Modify WP:IAR to say that rules can be violated if they prevent doing
>> > what's right, rather than only if they prevent improving the
>> encyclopedia.
>> >
>> >
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