[WikiEN-l] Jeremy Hanson
brewhaha%40edmc.net
brewhaha at edmc.net
Sun Jan 18 18:55:45 UTC 2009
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GRAWPTHEGIANT07
BTW, since this guy has been confirmed as LtWinters, then my suspicion that
he is grawp is also confirmed. I will look for the template for placing that
suspicion, because I am not sure that the same people are looking at the
same records. I see no reason why a different vandal would use the name of a
chased vandal. For that matter, there are three spellings of Psychonaut, and
the simple one is still active for some reason.
The problem with increasing the account age requirements for moving a page
is that it penalizes ALL NEW USERS, not just those with verizon who *might*
be personally affected, and only at an inconvenience. There are ways around
it and I do not see that Grawp is using them extensively. I see one obvious
range on his checkuser page that probably *was* blocked. Verizon is big and
no RFC that I know of concerns how IP numbers are allotted. The blocks he
has direct access to might concern a district or an entire city. Serious
editors with an account on wikipedia are only about one in ten thousand.
The advantage to blocking verizon, 64k at a time according to their whois
records, is that we might actually get a response from them, saying, yes, he
is with us, yes, we do hav a policy problem concerning him, and we are
concerning his mother. They hav a policy regarding unwanted communication.
All they need is feedback from their own users to get it enforced. I do not
really *know* that they ignored previous e-mails from me. I suspect that
they might actually pay attention to fifty.
"collateral damage" is too strong of a military euphemism for unintended
death. Please use "unintended delays" or "requring rudimentarily confirmed
channels", because that is all that is entailed.
"Ian Woollard" <ian.woollard at gmail.com> wrote in message
news:781c50250901152204q733764aayc1d2758c0201a72f at mail.gmail.com...
> In my experience these kinds of problems need to be dealt with firmly,
> with a minimum of collateral damage, but in a reactive way that tells
> the vandal that they can't in general win, in no uncertain terms.
>
> Messing around with proxy blocks and filters and stuff- it's much too
> brittle, it's probably never going to work.
>
> I think the easiest and most effective way to handle this GRAWP issue is
> just to
> temporarily increase the account age requirement for page moves to (say) 6
> months on the wikipedia, and make any account less recent than that go
> through an admin.
>
> If it puts him out of business he'll probably get bored and stop.
>
> In a few weeks we could try reducing it again, and if he starts back
> up, raise it again promptly.
>
> The point is, there is no way around that; he can't win. Even if he
> ages accounts we just raise the requirement, wait a while, and then
> lower it again. Rinse, lather, repeat. The point is to give them the
> idea that they're up against an implacable obstacle; which... they
> are.
>
> --
> -Ian Woollard
>
> We live in an imperfectly imperfect world. Life in a perfectly
> imperfect world would be much better.
>
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