[WikiEN-l] Consensus (was To boldy delete what no one had deleted before!)

[Marc Riddell]

on 1/13/09 2:26 PM, White Cat at wikipedia.kawaii.neko at gmail.com wrote:

> In general when a proposal achieves the state where it does not face serious
> opposition by the majority we consider that a "general agreement". In
> general votes are given a month or so to go on. It depends on how many votes
> are casted.
> The key problem is people are sick and tired of the
> deletionists-inclusionsist war. It has been going on for about 5 years
> now. A lot of people are "avoiding the drama" till the dust could settle.
> 
> None of this has a fixed rule by the way... So I do not really have an easy
> answer.
> 
> It may sound like I am rambling on without providing any answers which would
> accurately describe how I am right now. Full of questions without any real
> answers...
> 
It sounds to me like you are trying to make sense out of some things, WC,
and for that I congratulate you. And, answers or no answers, keeping asking
the questions. One huge answer is better communication skills for all
involved. It is achievable, if only a commitment would be made to achieve
it.

Marc

> 
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Marc Riddell
> <michaeldavid86 at comcast.net>wrote:
> 
>> on 1/13/09 8:36 AM, White Cat at wikipedia.kawaii.neko at gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>>> When consensus is reached the relevant pages are updated accordingly. In
>>> general major changes (such as the one in discussion) is voted upon by
>> the
>>> entire community. Not five or six editors but hundreds of editors. The
>>> voting happens after there is an agreement on the general principles -
>> even
>>> if such an agreement is partial or temporary.
>> 
>> WC, how is it determined that this agreement has been reached?
>> 
>>> During the vote people are
>>> given the option to support/oppose different approaches.
>> 
>> Is there a set time for the vote? And, if so, how is it set?
>> 
>> Marc
>> 
>>> 
>>> - White Cat
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Marc Riddell
>>> <michaeldavid86 at comcast.net>wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> on 1/13/09 2:33 AM, White Cat at wikipedia.kawaii.neko at gmail.comwrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> In other words there is a lack of consensus. Meaning no mass action of
>>>> any
>>>>> kind should be taken until a consensus is secured.
>>>>> 
>>>> On any given subject within the Project, how does someone go about
>>>> achieving
>>>> consensus? And how and when do you determine that a consensus has been
>>>> reached?
>>>> 
>>>> Marc Riddell
>>>> 
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