[WikiEN-l] Request to Wikipedians for BBC Documentary

stevertigo stvrtg at gmail.com
Wed Aug 19 17:59:23 UTC 2009


(Composed yesterday, delayed by system crash)

WJhonson at aol.com:
>> It's a question of the amount of coverage we want to give to>> fiction details.
Thomas Dalton<thomas.dalton at gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes, that is one side of the argument. It doesn't explain why the
> argument exists and is so prevalent.

The concept about whether or not to delete whole categories of
articles doesn't fall under the stabilized concept of "deletionism"
anyway - its an editorial concept regarding what's encyclopedic and
what isn't (WP:ENC and WP:WEIGHT).

The stable concept of "deletionism" isn't anything more than the
waste management principle: 'any organism needs a waste removal
system.' A fairly basic and agreeable idea. After that, "inclusionism"
sort of became a misnomer - few disagree that all subjects need to be
'included' - the disagreements deal with how they are treated.
Eventualism and integrationism sort of came along a bit later, and
these are the acually operant philosophies today.

On a side note, I don't recall who coined the terms "deletionism" and
"inclusionism" in our context. I remember using "deletionism" sometime
in early 2003 for its nicely pejorative characteristics: At the time
it made little sense to just let people - typically people quite
unskilled at actually improving articles - go around and just delete
things they didn't like.

The core issue here involves the differing concepts of an article or
topic's actual or potential worth.

-Stevertigo



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