[WikiEN-l] Civility poll results

[Emily Monroe]

> Every admin that's rude indicates to people that it's ok to be rude,  
> and/or that it's ok to be rude if you're special (an admin) and not  
> a peon (normal editors).  Neither of these is a good thing.

You understood my point exactly.

> People having a bad day, but not a persistent problem, should often  
> just be politely notified and asked to go take the day off and  
> relax / feel better elsewhere for a while. [...] But admins who go  
> too far overboard need to be reigned in, as do users who go too far  
> overboard.

True. We need to apply our rules on a case-by-case basis.

Emily
On Aug 12, 2009, at 5:42 PM, George Herbert wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Emily Monroe<bluecaliocean at me.com>  
> wrote:
>>> the arbitration committee have tended to take the view that
>>> incivility alone is not a reason to remove the admin toolbox and  
>>> flag.
>>
>> Oh, I get it--precedent interferes with my idea.
>>
>>> But yes, I've always followed Spider-Man, and thought that with
>>> great power comes great responsibility.
>>
>> This is exactly my point. If somebody has privileges, then they have
>> that *much more responsibility* to act in a civil matter.
>
> That has unfortunately not been a formal enforced prerequisite nor
> strongly reinforced in the admins community.
>
> I agree with you - The example admins set is important.  Every admin
> that's rude indicates to people that it's ok to be rude, and/or that
> it's ok to be rude if you're special (an admin) and not a peon (normal
> editors).  Neither of these is a good thing.
>
> We have to have a tolerance band, even admins who normally go out of
> their way to be polite or levelheaded have bad days.  People having a
> bad day, but not a persistent problem, should often just be politely
> notified and asked to go take the day off and relax / feel better
> elsewhere for a while.
>
> But admins who go too far overboard need to be reigned in, as do users
> who go too far overboard.  And it does happen.
>
>
> -- 
> -george william herbert
> george.herbert at gmail.com
>
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