[WikiEN-l] Civility poll results

[Surreptitiousness]

Emily Monroe wrote:
>> If we want it to be respected, we have to start blocking people if  
>> they refer to another user as a "cunt", no matter what the  
>> provocation. There has to be a line, and it has to be enforced.
>>     
>
> If we do that, then I think we have to give people blocks for BITEing  
> and BAITing. It's the only way it'll work without people pouting,  
> somewhat legitimately, "But he/she/xe started it! Life's not fair!"
>   
The correct response to But he/she/xe started it! is and I've ended it, 
and to Life's not fair! it is yes, but we know that already, or 
possibly, neither is a black cat's bum. But to take your broader point, 
yes, we do need to give people blocks for biteing and baiting, and the 
correct response when you've been provoked is go mention it at the 
Ettiquette board.  It makes it so much easier to work out which party is 
disruptive if one party is civil and following dispute resolution and 
one party is not.


> Emily
> On Aug 12, 2009, at 4:08 AM, Surreptitiousness wrote:
>
>   
>> Fayssal F. wrote:
>>     
>>> I am afraid it is not accurate. In footbal (soccer), FIFA delivers  
>>> the same
>>> yellow and red cards to all referees around the world. [[FIFA  
>>> Disciplinary
>>> Code]] regulates not just civility but far beyond that and it it  
>>> certainly
>>> governs the professional lives of millions of players.
>>>
>>> But why am I talking about sports disciplinary codes? Just go to  
>>> another
>>> country and tell them that you are a foreigner and you'd probably  
>>> deserve to
>>> be exempted from following their code of law!
>>>
>>> The idea that we are diverse and think differently has little basis  
>>> when
>>> being uncivil.
>>>
>>>       
>> There was an article in The Guardian last week about risks and  
>> security
>> policies.  The article pointed out that most people didn't respect
>> security policy because of the limited risk associated with breaching
>> it. The writer made the point that if companies wanted security
>> procedures to be respected, they had to start firing people simply
>> because they had shared passwords.  I think the same thing applies to
>> our civility policy.  If we want it to be respected, we have to start
>> blocking people if they refer to another user as a "cunt", no matter
>> what the provocation. There has to be a line, and it has to be
>> enforced.  The minute we allow "certain" people over the line, we  
>> allow
>> everyone over it, because of the rod just made regarding  
>> impartiality. I
>> don't care how good your contributions are, Wikipedia is also a
>> community, and the lack of self control which means you can use such
>> language implies you do not have the right social skills needed to
>> collaborate on creating wikipedia.
>>
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