[WikiEN-l] Civility poll results

[Marc Riddell]

> 2009/8/11 Marc Riddell <michaeldavid86 at comcast.net>:
>> on 8/11/09 4:13 PM, George Herbert at george.herbert at gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>>> SilkTork has started closing down and summarizing the poll results.
>>> 
>>> https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility/Poll
>>> 
>>> I am still reviewing the statistics and sum total comments, but some
>>> takeaways I already have -
>>> 
>>> 0. It's a problem.
>>> 1. We're not enforcing consistently at all, and that's hurting us.
>>> 2. We're BITEing new users.
>>> 
>> Is anyone really surprised at this? On this very List people are constantly
>> bragging about how wonderful Wikipedia is; focusing exclusively on how big
>> it is. Yet completely ignoring how screwed up the culture is. It's like a
>> company's media people pushing how good their product is, and how big their
>> company is, and completely avoiding how poorly their workers are treated -
>> while those in the executive suite are focused on trying to persuade people
>> to invest money in them. Arrogance without wisdom is hubris. This is a
>> formula for disaster.

on 8/11/09 6:25 PM, Thomas Dalton at thomas.dalton at gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Wikipedia is a project and a community but, above all, it is an
> encyclopaedia. It is an encyclopaedia that a lot of people find very
> useful. Our system is working. There is certainly room for
> improvement, but I don't see this disaster you speak of.
> 
Thank you, Thomas, you just made my point. This is exactly the type of focus
and denial I was speaking of.

Marc Riddell