[WikiEN-l] Wikipedia Art dispute pits artists against Wikimedia Foundation

FT2 ft2.wiki at gmail.com
Mon Apr 27 03:16:55 UTC 2009


Or even this as a comment on the AFD:

"Indeterminate.  If kept, it is surely non notable and should be
deleted. However if consensus tries to agree deletion this will surely
be commented on by reliable sources and of significant interest and
indicate to the closing admin that (CRYSTAL aside) it should be kept."

Anyone in the mood for an ancient Greek paradox? :)  'All cretans
performance art endeavors are non notable' :)

FT2

On 4/27/09, FT2 <ft2.wiki at gmail.com> wrote:
> Of course the /real/ irony is that it now most definitely has
> significant comment in multiple independent reliable
> sources..................
>
> (Against that, 'famous for stirring up a matter to become famous'
> isn't exacltly what WP:N is about. Lasting fame by (essentially)
> trying to use WP:N norms to generate attention it most likely wouldnt
> otherwise have had, may be valid in the art world, but here, less so.
> Misuse doesnt get celebrated, no matter the nobility of its motive in
> the performance art world, by simply creating drama in its wake. Too
> abusable if so.  (Article creation on a vandal if they manage to
> vandalize wp enough to get media comment, anyone?)
>
>
> Interesting teaser though :)
>
> FT2
>
> On 4/25/09, David Gerard <dgerard at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 2009/4/25 Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton at gmail.com>:
>>> 2009/4/25 Keith Old <keithold at gmail.com>:
>>
>>>> Ars Technica reports:
>>>> http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/04/wikipedia-suit-could-put-it-on-the-wrong-side-of-fair-use.ars
>>
>>> As mentioned in the further reading of that article, this has already
>>> been discussed on foundation-l. See Mike Godwin's response here:
>>> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2009-April/051505.html
>>
>>
>> Also, the article has been rewritten. It took a day of me and others
>> going "wtf" in the comments before they even put that much of the WMF
>> side.
>>
>> Number of tech press who ran an article on this who contacted WMF for
>> comment: 0.
>>
>>
>> - d.
>>
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