[WikiEN-l] An open letter to Jimmy Wales

[Tris Thomas]

Can this just not stop?  From what I can see, Larry worked for Jimmy at 
Bomis.  Together they worked on Wikipedia, but with Larry coming up with 
the idea & being the main driving force behind it to start with.  But he 
was an employee of Bomis.  Everyone knows that you once described each 
other as co-founders & therefore, if that's what Jimmy described you as 
back then, that's what you are.  He could just as easily have described 
you as an employee of the finder & would be entitled to as you were the 
employee & he can take the credit.

Why the continuous childish bickering-everyone knows what happened & it 
makes absolutely no difference now.

Please just get over it, it's damaging Wikipedia itself, which I don't 
think Larry wants to do, & just seems so pointless.

That's my ten cents!

On 09/04/2009 16:21, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote:
> Larry Sanger wrote:
>    
>> All,
>>
>> Earlier today, I had no joy in trying to post this "open letter to Jimmy
>> Wales" on Jimmy's own user talk page: the man himself deleted it.  That is
>> not the sort of behavior I would have expected of the head of an allegedly
>> open, transparent community devoted to free speech.
>>
>>      
> <snip>
>
>    
>>   I came up with and promoted the idea
>> of making a wiki encyclopedia, wrote the first policy pages and many more
>> policy pages in the following year, led the project, and enforced many rules
>> that are now taken for granted. I came up with a lot of stuff that is
>> regarded as standard operating procedure. For instance, I argued that talk
>> should go on talk pages and got people into that habit. Similarly, after
>> meta-discussion started taking up so much of Wikipedia's time and energy, I
>> shepherded talk about the project to meta.wikipedia.org - and after that, to
>> Wikipedia-L and WikiEN-L. I insisted that we were working on an
>> encyclopedia, not on the many other things one can use a wiki for.
>>      
> Putting aside for the moment, the rest of your missive of quite
> respectable length; if you do deserve kudos for creating the
> very first heuristics for channeling discussion to appropriate
> fora, it is sadly regrettable that you were not able to choose
> the initial forum where you published your diatribe with more
> discernment.
>
> User talk pages in current practice are not for blogging or
> personal communication (except to the extent that such
> personal communication is in the aid of cementing the trust
> and fellow feeling contributors have with each other, and
> thus helps our work as a community). User talk should be
> squarely about improving the encyclopaedia.
>
> You may not have taken the trouble to acquaint yourself
> with the methods by which legitimate feedback and comment
> on wikimedian matters is currently channeled, but it would
> very much be worth your while, to facilitate a smoother
> communicative experience.
>
>
> Yours,
>
> Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
>
>
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