[WikiEN-l] WikiEN-l Digest, Vol 62, Issue 41

Jonas Rand joeyyuan at cox.net
Fri Sep 26 16:21:44 UTC 2008


> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 01:05:55 +0100
> From: "Thomas Dalton" <thomas.dalton at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Ryulong
> To: "English Wikipedia" <wikien-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
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> 2008/9/26 Jonas Rand <joeyyuan at cox.net>:
>> Ryulong, real name Michael, has stalked me. He has obviously ben 
>> searching
>> for my real name. I made some comments on Wikiversity under an IP address
>> not in my known range, signed my real name. These posts had no link
>> whatsoever to a userpage on another wiki. The only way Ryulong could have
>> found those posts, connected it, found my IP address, and blocked it on
>> enwiki, is doing searches on my real name, either for the express purpose 
>> of
>> looking for new IP addresses, or (more likely) some strange stalker hunt. 
>> It
>> would be awkward for someone to search for the real name of a person to 
>> find
>> sockpuppets or IPs, unless he knows I've moved since I had IPs in the
>> 68.224.0.0/17 range, in which case he's still on a stalkerish hunt for 
>> me.
>
> This is not the place for such complaints. Try the Administrators
> Noticeboard in the first instance.

You must not know who I am, about my ban, and how many ways and times I have 
been told "Fuck you" by higher-up Wikipedians.

My name is Jonas Rand, and I live in Nevada. I was banned a long time ago, 
and the ban still stayed.

I became a member of Wikipedia Review shortly after I stopped vandalising 
and began editing regularly. I posted on there some comments critical of 
Wikipedia, not really in a mature fashion. I also found out about things 
there, such as Ryulong's RFC. When I looked at the abusive blocks he had 
made (he apologised, but continues to be rude nowadays), I decided to 
comment on it, requesting that he be desysopped. I still maintain that he 
should be desysopped, however the way I phrased the comment and the reasons 
that I thought he should have been desysopped for (to see how it feels) made 
people think I was trolling. I was new in the field of Wikidrama. So I was 
blocked for a week. After I sockpuppeteered during that block, when I was 
let back in, I tried to remove the sockpuppeteer template, as it was 
unseemly and I thought it made me look like I was blocked. So I called 
Ryulong names. I harassed him, and he was rude to me. Then, Josh Gordon came 
in and threatened me with a 1-month block, not seeing that his friend 
Ryulong was not willing to negotiate with me. I realised his threat was 
serious, the hard way.

I created more and more sockpuppets over more and more bans, eventually 
leading to an indefinite block by someone who obviously meatpuppets for 
Slimvirgin, Crum375. It was for harassing SV with a sockpuppet.

I don't believe the ban is unfair, I think that it shouldn't be permanent. 
There is also no reason to harass me by being so obsessed with me as to do 
google searches for my real name to check for sockpuppets.

Of course, I won't be going through the trouble to find an unblocked open 
web proxy, create a sockpuppet, post to the AN, and get reverted as a troll 
by Luna Santin ;).

To Josh, because I know you read this list, I'm sorry for the abusive 
e-mails and disruption, I've realised my mistake, but you must realise as 
well that Ryulong wasn't acting very nice, either. I hope this can be 
resolved.

Jonas Rand
User:Ionas68224 




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