[WikiEN-l] Fwd: [Foundation-l] tech team - content community bottleneck

[James Farrar]

If a dev screws up, are we supposed to ignore the fact and risk a
similar screwup in the future?

On 12/01/2008, David Gerard <dgerard at gmail.com> wrote:
> A note from a dev. If you rant about their evil enough, you can
> successfully get them to say "fine, you do it" and leave. Then you can
> feel a real sense of achievement at your good work for Wikipedia.
>
>
> - d.
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Domas Mituzas <midom.lists at gmail.com>
> Date: 11 Jan 2008 17:51
> Subject: [Foundation-l] tech team - content community bottleneck
> To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
>
>
> Hi!
>
> > Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the developer who made the
> > switch
> > is not an employee of the Wikimedia Foundation. Take it to wikitech-
> > l or
> > wikien-l, please.
>
>
> Well, there is quite a bit of foundation issue here, and I'd like to
> explaim some general projects bits (that are neither technology, nor
> single-project related):
>
> See, Jens is not employee, though has been the developer with most
> community-facing attitude. He has been implementing, at his own will,
> most of community requests. He is a volunteer, and has been dedicated
> to our ideals more and longer than most of us.
> When members of communities decide to attack with "This developer has
> exhibited extremely poor judgment and a gross disregard for the
> WIkipedia community" and nobody takes that back or apologizes, it is
> no fun to continue doing all these small things.
>
> Foundation doesn't really facilitate this process at the moment - it
> is all left to individual care - both filtering, evaluating if change
> X would successfully follow all few hundreds policy pages, and
> implementation, what often requires extensive code review and
> familiarity of our operating environment.
> Do note, that community representatives come not only with these
> changes - various 'oh noes, remove this from site' requests are quite
> common, and every of them are questionable.
>
> If people will be going to raise such huge flames and attack
> implementors for actually doing the job, we will really ask
> foundation to facilitate not only all the evaluation of every request
> that comes in from communities, but to provide with implementor
> resources too.
>
> We have far more fun things (our jobs, lives, even wikipedia
> technology development) to do than go into endless debates with
> people who favor endless debates, sorry.
>
> --
> Domas Mituzas -- http://dammit.lt/ -- [[user:midom]]
>
>
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