[WikiEN-l] So, has the need for consensus in wikipedia been eliminated?

[Majorly]

On 10/01/2008, Avi <avi.wiki at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Alex, the more important point here is not the goodness or badness of
> rollback, it is the gross disregard for the wikipedia community that JuLef
> (sp?) had by implementing this procedure in the face of significant clear
> and present opposition. Even if this were the best thing since sliced
> bread,
> which I do not believe it is, its implementation opens the door to further
> marginalization of the community processes that have allowed wikipedia to
> survive its exponential growth.
>
> So, shall we start promoting more sysops based on bureaucratic whim? Shall
> we proceed to delete all userpage quotations on a lark without discussion?
> How about admins speedy deleting articles with minor sourcing issues,
> claiming A7 without recourse for a discussion?
>
> This is a gross violation of process, and there isn't even a good option
> for
> the community to respond as there are extremely few people who can access
> the wikicode itself.
>
> Even when Jimbo wanted to implement credentialing standards after the
> EssJay
> issue, the community had an open and frank discussion about it _without
> and
> before_ implementation by fiat.
>
> This developer has exhibited extremely poor judgment and a gross disregard
> for the WIkipedia community, and his actions should be reversed, if for no
> other reason than commitment to our core policies that major changes
> require
> consensus.
>
> --Avi
>
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There will be opposition to everything proposed on enwiki. I'd be just as
annoyed as you if the consensus was, say 55%, much less than what is
normally considered to be so. People are always scared of new things
appearing, but that's how it is. I honestly can't see why those in
opposition can't give this a chance, and complain only when something goes
wrong. We didn't ask for undo did we? It just happened. There's probably
other things too.

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Alex (Majorly)

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