[WikiEN-l] A six-day roll-back poll?

[NavouWiki]

I'm sure you could have put it another way then you did.

But to link to a discussion, then to say "you feel" like a fast one is being
pulled, I think was improper.  You may not have meant it, but it had the
unintended effect of being in the back of my mind when I was evaluating the
discussion.  We have to be mindful that we do not canvass, directly or
indirectly.  We also have to be careful not to sully people unintentionally.


..."this one feels a little like an attempt to pull a fast one."

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pull_a_fast_one

Please consider your wording when linking discussion in the future on this
list.


Best regards,

Mercury



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NavouWiki wrote:
> Doc,
> 
> That was really off the mark.  Who is trying to pull a fast one?  There
are
> some very good contributors, so consider their good faith.  
> 
> Merc
> 

Sorry, I had a long IRC conversation with them and stressed my strong 
objections to the short length and Christmas timing of the poll. I 
stated that it felt manipulative, and pressed for a longer time period. 
They essentially saw my attempts to extend it as being attempts to wreck 
it. They were more interested in pressing the thing home, than waiting 
till people returned from their holidays to give their opinions. My good 
faith assuming was approaching exhaustion at that point (but still in 
with a shout).

Given the low level of involvement at that point (about 60 people in 5 
of the 7 days they were allowing), I also suggested that THEY use the 
official mailing list to raise the profile of the discussion. Again I 
was rebuffed and told that engaging with the people who read the mailing 
list was quite pointless.

What finished off my assuming good faith was their reaction to my 
posting here. When they declined to do so, I posted here myself last 
night pointing people to the debate, and expressing my concerns over its 
timing - I did NOT give my view of the proposal itself. (And I told them 
I was intending on doing this.) I'd say my advertising was successful, 
as there's been dozens of new contributions on *both sides* of the 
debate in the last hours. However, I have been accused of canvasing, 
"inappropriate and deceptive" behaviour and various other personal attacks.

Where is their assumption of my good faith? Their overreaction to me 
publicising this rather serves to confirm my suspicion that this was an 
attempt to game the system.

Doc

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