[WikiEN-l] Inconsistent image argument.

[George Herbert]

I think that the deletion debate established that, contrary to the
Band's assertions you're relying on, the actual glyphs are ancient and
not subject to current copyright.

That they may have reinvented them and chosen to use them to identify
themselves doesn't mean that they are in fact original and subject to
copyright.

You can't copyright old public-domain stuff, even if you came up with
it again.  Re-writing or re-drawing it, in knowledge of what came
before or ignorance, doesn't render it original in the legal sense.


On Jan 2, 2008 3:23 PM, Meg Ireland <megireland99 at gmail.com> wrote:
> So if you believe that to be true, you would have to explain the
> glyphs representing Jimmy Page and Robert Plant. According to
> biographies of the band, they themselves designed both glyphs. If so
> the images date to 1971, meaning they would still be in copyright.
>
> Meg
>
>
> On 03/01/2008, Charlotte Webb <charlottethewebb at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 12/31/07, Meg Ireland <megireland99 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I find it hypocritical that User:Save Us 229 has removed a logo on the
> > > basis of copyright violation, and then proceeded to add Image:Zoso.svg
> > > in the image link space instead, then blanked all other links The
> > > users edits on this issue makes little sense.
> >
> > Zoso.svg was created by Freakofnurture (former admin) who uploaded it
> > to Commons as public domain. The validity of this license was disputed
> > in April of last year, but it appears that the image was kept [1] on
> > the basis that the four symbols themselves are older than dirt, that
> > the sequence in which they are arranged lacks sufficient creativity to
> > be copyrightable (amounts to no more than the sum of its parts), and
> > that the image depicts only the glyphs of the album title and not the
> > copyrighted cover art, so there was nothing to prevent him from
> > releasing it into the public domain.
> >
> > What is the "logo" image you are referring to, and where did 229
> > remove it from? A user-box by any chance? :-P
> >
> > [1] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Image:Zoso.svg
> >
> > —C.W.
> >
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