[WikiEN-l] new compromise

Thinboy00 (Wikipedia mailing list) thinboy00+wikipedialist at gmail.com
Tue Feb 26 00:50:10 UTC 2008


I accidentally sent with the wrong email address, see quoted text.
The original message was canceled by myself.

On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Thinboy00 <thinboy00 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Will this need a sitewide installation in monobook.js (or common.js)?
>  Also, can you make it so that if scripting is disabled, the images (or
>  tables) won't load?  On second thought, whether they should load in
>  that case is debatable.
>
>
>
>  On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 9:07 AM, Raphael Wegmann <raphael at psi.co.at> wrote:
>  > Jimmy Wales schrieb:
>  >  > Andrew Gray wrote:
>  >  >> The basic problem is that when a debate is binary - include or don't
>  >  >> include - we can't really compromise with both sides unless we get
>  >  >> interestingly creative...
>  >  >
>  >  > I agree with Andrew that we should try to think beyond the simple binary
>  >  > debate and look for interestingly creative solutions.  I suspect
>  >  > actually that in time, with sufficient creative genius, we can come up
>  >  > with a quasi-Pareto-improving solution.
>  >  >
>  >
>  >  I've tried a new compromise in a sandbox page.
>  >  It has almost no impact for the pro-image proponents
>  >  as it only adds an ambox template on top of the page.
>  >  All images stay per default visible.
>  >
>  >  The ambox at the top of the page is offering our readers
>  >  to hide all depictions of Muhammad with one click.
>  >
>  >  Since we agreed to have a calligraphy as a lead image,
>  >  those who don't want to see any depiction of Muhammad
>  >  can just click the link in the ambox and read our article
>  >  with all depictions of Muhammad hidden in collapsed tables.
>  >
>  >  Unfortunately this solution needs some additional
>  >  javascript (collapseAllTables() and expandAllTables()).
>  >
>  >  If you want to see my compromise in action, you'll
>  >  need to copy my
>  >  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Raphael1/monobook.js
>  >
>  >  After refreshing your browser cache (Shift-Reload),
>  >  you should be able to see my compromise at
>  >
>  >  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Raphael1/Muhammad
>  >
>  >  To implement this compromise, we should think
>  >  about a more general approach, something like a
>  >  Template:CTbox (CollapseTablesBox).
>  >
>  >  br
>  >  --
>  >  Raphael
>  >
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>
>
>  --
>  Sincerely,
>  Thinboy00>  >  >> interestingly creative...
>  >  >
>  >  > I agree with Andrew that we should try to think beyond the simple binary
>  >  > debate and look for interestingly creative solutions.  I suspect
>  >  > actually that in time, with sufficient creative genius, we can come up
>  >  > with a quasi-Pareto-improving solution.
>  >  >
>  >
>  >  I've tried a new compromise in a sandbox page.
>  >  It has almost no impact for the pro-image proponents
>  >  as it only adds an ambox template on top of the page.
>  >  All images stay per default visible.
>  >
>  >  The ambox at the top of the page is offering our readers
>  >  to hide all depictions of Muhammad with one click.
>  >
>  >  Since we agreed to have a calligraphy as a lead image,
>  >  those who don't want to see any depiction of Muhammad
>  >  can just click the link in the ambox and read our article
>  >  with all depictions of Muhammad hidden in collapsed tables.
>  >
>  >  Unfortunately this solution needs some additional
>  >  javascript (collapseAllTables() and expandAllTables()).
>  >
>  >  If you want to see my compromise in action, you'll
>  >  need to copy my
>  >  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Raphael1/monobook.js
>  >
>  >  After refreshing your browser cache (Shift-Reload),
>  >  you should be able to see my compromise at
>  >
>  >  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Raphael1/Muhammad
>  >
>  >  To implement this compromise, we should think
>  >  about a more general approach, something like a
>  >  Template:CTbox (CollapseTablesBox).
>  >
>  >  br
>  >  --
>  >  Raphael
>  >
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>  >
>
>
>
>  --
>  Sincerely,
>  Thinboy00
>



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