[WikiEN-l] BetacommandBot, (currently) centralized discussion
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Sun Feb 24 08:16:49 UTC 2008
On 24/02/2008, WJhonson at aol.com <WJhonson at aol.com> wrote:
> If, in a biography of Patti Smith, we have no free images of Patti Smith,
> but we have a book cover of her biography writen by John Brown or whatever, and
> that book cover, is in fact, a photograph of Patti Smith, we can and should
> use it in the article. That photograph enhances the project, harms no one,
> and is fair use. Rejecting it for bureaucratic reasons, making the *rule* more
> important than the participants, is not in the best interests of the
> project. I'm not suggesting we have a rule for not using book covers. I'm
> suggesting that those people who interpret our policy to state that, are harming the
How exactly would you defend that under the doctrine of fair use? I
really can't see a way to do it.
> Some editors place the rules as gods over the community, without realizing
> that it is the community which made the rules. Some editors place such a high
> reliance in their personal interpretations of general policy, to fit
> specific situations, that they cannot comprehend how harmful their actions are to
> the project, when they create such a level of internal discord, and when the
> end-result denigrates the project without creating any enhanced value.
Our copyright policy was for the most part put together by people who
have at least a passing knowledge of copyright law. So fair you have
failed to show that you do.
> The removal of all fair use photographs does nothing useful for the project.
The project is to make a free encyclopedia.
> It does however harm it, by removing useful illustrations from articles
> that could use them,
So far for your chosen example this does not appear to be true.
>replacing their removal with a vacancy filled by nothing.
> That isn't progress.
> Will Johnson
Experience suggests that nothing is more likely to be replaced by a
free image than an image with a really really weak fair use claim.
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