[WikiEN-l] Can we think about trying the "show" solution?

The Mangoe the.mangoe at gmail.com
Fri Feb 22 03:54:58 UTC 2008

I don't think Wikipedia's "not censored" policy is limited to our
project; I think it represents the dominance of those who view
Wikipedia as a conduit for disseminating material potentially subject
to censorship. By your own words you are setting Wikipedia against the
"arrogance" of (some forms of) Islam, so once again I have to say, "I
see no neutrality here."

I would also point out that the principle isn't really "not censored".
It seems to me that we should be seeking a solution which retains the
images but isn't so "in your face" about their presence. Actual
censorship doesn't seem to be on the table.

On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 6:29 PM, Oldak Quill <oldakquill at gmail.com> wrote:

>  You present these two principles as equal: no pictures and not
>  censored. There is a great difference between them and their moral
>  value. Wikipedia's sense of no censorship is limited to our project.
>  We have no belief that others (non-Wikipedians) should comply with
>  this rule outside Wikipedia or that they will be punished (or are
>  immoral) for not behaving like us.
>  The other principle is that no one--non-Muslims included--can see the
>  face of Muhammed. It is ridiculous absolutism to suggest that people
>  who aren't members of your group should comply with your rules (and
>  should be punished for breaking those rules). I am not a Muslim and I
>  have no moral, ethical or religious motivation to comply with a rule
>  that I see as wrong and arrogant.
>  --
>  Oldak Quill (oldakquill at gmail.com)
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