[WikiEN-l] Can we think about trying the "show" solution?

geni geniice at gmail.com
Thu Feb 21 21:59:08 UTC 2008

On 21/02/2008, The Mangoe <the.mangoe at gmail.com> wrote:
> As long as the two sacred principles of "No pictures!" and "Not
>  censored!" stand in rigid opposition to each other, the conflict will
>  continue. The "show" solution (with an appropriate note) or even
>  putting all the images on the "depictions" page (again, with a
>  prominent note) seem like reasonable solutions.

Sure if you tend towards the pro censorship position.

>  If this is a "slippery slope", it's because "not censored!" is often
>  interpreted to mean "dare to be offensive". It is taken to be a highly
>  POV-pushing statement about how public discourse is to be conducted.
>  In the present case it represents a statement of defiance against
>  "fundamentalist" Islam; more generally, it can be taken, with some
>  justification, as the adoption of a particular liberal, secular,
>  Western public morality. This is not the only sign of this: we also
>  tolerate POV-dubious advocacy projects such as LBGT and animal rights,
>  but I think it would be very hard for there to be a (say) Wikiproject
>  Fundamentalism, except as a sort of authorized hatchet workplace.

WikiProject Catholicism appears to get by.

> I'm
>  not saying that I want to step up to that really huge issue, because I
>  simply don't have the stamina for it. I am saying that in the instant
>  case, I think we can make a reasonable concession and stick to it.

You admit it is a concession then? Surely we are thus forced to reject
your position since we are making a concession to pro-censorship
groups and wikipedia is not censored.


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