[WikiEN-l] A call for moderation

Screamer scream at datascreamer.com
Sun Feb 17 21:35:19 UTC 2008


Jimmy Wales wrote:
> Tim Starling wrote:
>   
>> What is relevant is what offends people here and now. This one image in 
>> question obviously does. It's a pity we don't have any representatives of 
>> those offended here on this list to mediate a compromise -- it seems to me 
>> that both the people suggesting compromises in this thread and the people 
>> refuting them have very little understanding of what is actually necessary 
>> to answer the objections of the moderate petitioners.
>>     
>
> I agree very much with Tim.  The Wikipedia way has always been to 
> attempt to find a common ground which is widely satisfactory to all but 
> the most unreasonable people.
>
> Here are two unreasonable positions:
>
> 1. Anything which offends me (or offends anyone) has to be removed from 
> Wikipedia completely.
>
> 2. Offensiveness is completely irrelevant to all editorial 
> decisionmaking and in fact anyone who mentions finding something 
> offensive should be mocked, and we should try to find even more 
> offensive things to put in Wikipedia just to show them.
>
> Fortunately, both are straw-men positions not advocated by anyone.
>
> So here we are in the middle trying to find a way to educate and inform 
> in a mature, responsible way.
>
> It is a shame that in this thread we do not have any representatives who 
> might be able to find a compromise which would be satisfactory to the 
> moderate petitioners, while at the same time fulfilling our general 
> desire to not censor Wikipedia.
>
> --Jimbo
>
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Here is a thought.  Perhaps the image can be collapsed, in the same 
manner we do our {{hat}} {{hab}} collapsible text blocks.

./scream


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