[WikiEN-l] Defeat: Notability is Policy

The Cunctator cunctator at gmail.com
Sat Feb 2 19:08:53 UTC 2008

And the world is moving on from Wikipedia. It's attitudes like this that
have caused the decline in editing and participation at Wikipedia.

On Feb 1, 2008 7:20 PM, Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton at gmail.com> wrote:

> > Good for you. When we update the site code to read "Edit this page if
> > you have source material avaliable" instead of "edit this page" that
> > will be a reasonable expectation to apply to others. The entire
> > project, let's note, was built on people wandering by an adding a fact
> > they happened to know, with the idea that mass untrained peer review
> > would be good enough to get a working project. Citing sources is one
> > of the ways we get to that point, but we have to remember: the project
> > is designed to be editable by anyone in a casual and volunteer manner.
> > We hurt ourselves if we expect everybody to have multiple sources on
> > hand before they edit or create an article.
> That was the original idea, I agree, but we've moved on from that. We
> long ago accepted that simply adding what you know doesn't work since
> there is no way for people to trust it. We now do require people
> source things, we just aren't very good at enforcing it (I believe it
> was Jimbo that said people shouldn't be tagging dubious statements
> with {{fact}}, they should just be removing them completely).
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