[WikiEN-l] NOR contradicts NPOV

Wilhelm Schnotz wilhelm at nixeagle.org
Sun Dec 28 05:53:37 UTC 2008


Sorry about the double post... Vesck was supposed to be "crack" but my
blackberry made it into some non word. Again sorry

On 12/28/08, Wilhelm Schnotz <wilhelm at nixeagle.org> wrote:
> Ah ok will sorry about that... You are correct there.
>
> This is a problem, however the solution needs to clearly deal only
> with the specified situation above... As not to make vesck theories
> any easier to get on wikipedia.
>
> Perhaps a simple exemption to the NOR page to cover the described problem?
>
> On 12/28/08, WJhonson at aol.com <WJhonson at aol.com> wrote:
>> You're mistaking what I said.
>> I did not say that subjects can edit their own wiki biographies with
>> impunity and force.
>> What I said is that subjects speaking about themselves have a wide
>> latitude.
>> If the New Bedford Post (newspaper) reports that "Britney Spears was born
>> on
>> Mars" and Britney in her personal blog reports that "I was not!", we can
>> report both, and equally, even though Britney is speaking
>> in-the-first-person.
>>
>> A subject's own statements, about themselves, can always be reported in
>> their own biography.
>> I'm not saying that they would edit those in.  I'm saying that we  can.
>> Not
>> that we should or must, only that we can.
>>
>> Will Johnson
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 12/27/2008 8:58:41 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
>> wilhelm at nixeagle.org writes:
>>
>> I  thought the last time I checked subjects were asked to *not* edit
>> their  pages... And generally when they do... Someone shouts COI  at
>> them.
>>
>> (I generally agree with subjects not dictating their pages  but some of
>> the users that deal with COI in the past were not always that  nice to
>> the subjects.... Anyway, I just wanted to point out that  subjects
>> don't get THAT much leeway. St leafy not as of 3 months  ago.)
>>
>> On 12/27/08, WJhonson at aol.com <WJhonson at aol.com>  wrote:
>>> Link me the essay Derida wrote and I will summarize it.
>>>  Then your problem will disappear and we won't have to hear any more
>>> about
>>> him :) (or her or it or goat).
>>>
>>> By the way, you  are aware Phil, that subject's speaking about
>>> themselves,
>>> in
>>>  their own articles, have a wide latitude.  Right?
>>>
>>> Will  Johnson
>>>
>>>
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