[WikiEN-l] Spam blacklist and BADSITES

[David Goodman]

I don't think under any of the scenarios real or imagined presented
here that the Wikipedia community is the one that has "started"
destroying real people's lives. Surely it is the  people outside
trying to use us for bad ends that bear the responsibility for
"starting". Everyone here is trying to prevent further harm--it is
just that some of us think that anything giving the appearance of a
cover-up is the least likely way to do it, and will further harm both
individuals and the encyclopedia. There is certainly enough precedent
for that.

On 9/10/07, Armed Blowfish <diodontida.armata at googlemail.com> wrote:
> On 10/09/2007, Ray Saintonge <saintonge at telus.net> wrote:
> > I never heard of Bagley until this
> > thread started.  Now I read comments
> > from someone, who has also proven
> > the unreliability of his judgement on
> > something as trivial as trivia, libeling
> > a living person by calling him
> > an asshole and dangerous, and
> > expecting us to trust these comments.
>
> If these hurtful/rude/attack/libelous/whatever
> comments are on Wikimedia servers, I
> suggest they be excised. (Disclaimer: I have
> not read them personally, so I can't judge
> what they are.)
>
> > I believe that even those accused
> > of the most heinous crimes have a
> > right to a defence, and even if they
> > would not want to appear here
> > personally there need to be standards
> > in the way that we deal with such
> > claims.
> >
> > If there is not any sort of cabal or
> > conspiracy, why bring it up?  Why
> > make up these vicious stories pretending
> > that others are seeing them?
> > What you seem to forget is that wikis
> > are about communities getting
> > together to find a mutually acceptable
> > position; it's not about a
> > handful of people who decide what is
> > good for others, or how others
> > should be protected.  For many of us
> > that is what was wrong with the old
> > way of doing things.
> >
> > Ec
>
> When it comes to the safety / health /
> feelings of individual human beings,
> the encyclopaedia is not involved -
> what matters are the individuals.
> Consensus is all well and good for
> talking about encyclopaedia articles,
> but that doesn't give the Wikipaedia
> community the right to start destroying
> real people's lives.
>
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David Goodman, Ph.D, M.L.S.