[WikiEN-l] The more I think about my ban from Wikipedia, the more I realize how wrong it was.

[Adrian]

Daniel R. Tobias schrieb:
> There's an extremely vindictive, 
> punitive attitude all around, 
My imaginary dividing line...
> and a belief that it's more important 
> to protect the fragile egos of long-time Wikipedians than to try to 
> be fair to newbies who may just be inept or frustrated rather than 
> being the evil trolls they're often labeled as when they rub somebody 
> the wrong way.
I think you're mixing up two points that *should* be very distinct. Not 
saying the latter is or isn't at all true, but it's somewhat 
drama-related and shouldn't obscure from far more serious issues, which 
your first point happens to touch on.

I could go into several examples, but to keep it simple (and 
redudancy-free, so I don't get *moderated* (see, this is on-topic as can 
be...)) I'll stick to one particular thing that has recently struck me 
as, well, somewhat strange:

Why (oh why) is the very important NPOV section (which newbies, as well 
as regulars in the trenches are often pointed to) WP:UNDUE called 
*UN*due weight? Why not *Due weight*? Why the forbidding tone? Could it 
be that some really enjoy employing negative language instead of being 
positive?

Telling another editor, newbie or not, that things must *not* be given 
*un*due weight strikes me as totally arbitrary in its negativeness. 
Shouldn't the tendency rather be to *help* others to see what is the 
most useful apporach and to *motivate* to give due weight to the 
relevant aspects and to describe them what is *best practice* instead of 
what is *bad* and *forbidden* etc?

I'm writing here because in my opinion, the two most misunderstood and 
most widely ignored and even misused sections of NPOV, WP:ASF and WP:DUE 
(both are redirects I recently created), should be carefully reworded 
for clarity and positiveness.

I figured since previous attempts at doing (undoable and imo 
unnecessary) complete rewrites of NPOV appear to have ended in  what 
might be called <s>cl*st*rf*cks</s> group hugs, we might as well get 
over with it before anyone starts building up false hope for the better.

So I'd like to invite anyone to weigh in on the discussion at WT:NPOV. 
There's only drama if you want it to be there.

Adrian