[WikiEN-l] Why are URLs numbered?

[Gary Kirk]

Would [note-1] at the bottom be a link to note 1 at the bottom, else
if it's put in note 50 or something, that's more scrolling up and
confusion.

On 9/5/07, FT2 <ft2.wiki at gmail.com> wrote:
> How about enabling the render of [link.com] as <ref>[link.com]</ref>, only
> for mainspace articles. Then talk pages and project pages wouldn't be
> affected. It's only really a desired point or under significant discussion
> for articles anyway.
>
>
> FT2
>
>
> PS -- While we're on the subject of refs and URLs, one other wish I'll throw
> in the ring - that ref's can at a very basic level, cite other named refs as
> sources. A markup like this: <reflink name="blah" />, that renders anywhere
> as "[note X]". The reason's this: Suppose you have multiple cites of the
> same source - say cite#1 is page 17 of a source, cite 2 is page 27, cite 3
> is page 45, etc, or different uses of the same source need different
> comments in the note. Then you have to repeat the actual source detail in
> each cite, completely.
>
> What I'd like is to be able to do something really basic like this:
>
> Widgets are a major part of the economy of Greenland.<ref name="doe">John
> Doe, ''A History Of Widgets'' (1998), Academic press.</ref> Widget
> manufacture is responsible for over 90% of the GNP<ref>See <reflink
> name="doe" /> page 97.</ref> and 47% of employment of adults.<ref>According
> to Jane Smith, ''Life in Greenland'', 48%, and according to Doe<reflink
> name="doe" /> 47%</ref> ....
>
> And have it render:
>
> Widgets are a major part of the economy of Greenland.<sup>[1]</sup> Widget
> manufacture is responsible for over 90% of the GNP<sup>[2]</sup> and 47% of
> employment of adults.<sup>[3]</sup>
>
> 1 - John Doe, ''A History Of Widgets'' (1998), Academic press.
> 2 - Source: [note 1] page 97.
> 3 - According to Jane Smith, ''Life in Greenland'', 48%, and according to
> Doe [note 1] 47%
>
>
> At present each of footnotes 1-3 must independently contain the same
> duplicated cite info, or {{cite web}}. Allowing simply <reflink name="blah"
> />, rendered as "[note X]" with the correct note number, would allow
> something roughly similar to "ibid", referencing any other note (in the main
> text or another footnote) by number, without recursion.
>
>
> FT2.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wikien-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org
> [mailto:wikien-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of George Herbert
> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 8:49 AM
> To: English Wikipedia
> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Why are URLs numbered?
>
> On 9/5/07, Delirium <delirium at hackish.org> wrote:
> > FT2 wrote:
> > > 3. - auto-render all [http://link.com] as <ref>http://link.com</ref>.
> It's
> > > not perfect but the information's the best there is and its consistent
> in
> > > style.
> > >
> > >
> > > I like #3.
> > >
> >
> > That seems reasonable to me---that's usually what people mean by the
> > inline links anyway (an assertion that their link constitutes a
> > reference).  Of course someone should still come along and either: 1)
> > expand them into a full citation (e.g. with {{cite web}}); or 2)
> > determine that the link is not a reliable source, and either remove it
> > or move it to the "external links" section. But we have to do that with
> > links that are already in ref tags anyway.
> >
> > -Mark
>
> That will mangle attempts to do standard administrative history and
> link references in the context of an inline discussion on a talk or
> notice page, though...
>
>
> --
> -george william herbert
> george.herbert at gmail.com
>
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Gary Kirk