[WikiEN-l] Why are URLs numbered?

[FT2]

How about enabling the render of [link.com] as <ref>[link.com]</ref>, only
for mainspace articles. Then talk pages and project pages wouldn't be
affected. It's only really a desired point or under significant discussion
for articles anyway.


FT2


PS -- While we're on the subject of refs and URLs, one other wish I'll throw
in the ring - that ref's can at a very basic level, cite other named refs as
sources. A markup like this: <reflink name="blah" />, that renders anywhere
as "[note X]". The reason's this: Suppose you have multiple cites of the
same source - say cite#1 is page 17 of a source, cite 2 is page 27, cite 3
is page 45, etc, or different uses of the same source need different
comments in the note. Then you have to repeat the actual source detail in
each cite, completely. 

What I'd like is to be able to do something really basic like this:

Widgets are a major part of the economy of Greenland.<ref name="doe">John
Doe, ''A History Of Widgets'' (1998), Academic press.</ref> Widget
manufacture is responsible for over 90% of the GNP<ref>See <reflink
name="doe" /> page 97.</ref> and 47% of employment of adults.<ref>According
to Jane Smith, ''Life in Greenland'', 48%, and according to Doe<reflink
name="doe" /> 47%</ref> ....

And have it render:

Widgets are a major part of the economy of Greenland.<sup>[1]</sup> Widget
manufacture is responsible for over 90% of the GNP<sup>[2]</sup> and 47% of
employment of adults.<sup>[3]</sup>

1 - John Doe, ''A History Of Widgets'' (1998), Academic press.
2 - Source: [note 1] page 97.
3 - According to Jane Smith, ''Life in Greenland'', 48%, and according to
Doe [note 1] 47%


At present each of footnotes 1-3 must independently contain the same
duplicated cite info, or {{cite web}}. Allowing simply <reflink name="blah"
/>, rendered as "[note X]" with the correct note number, would allow
something roughly similar to "ibid", referencing any other note (in the main
text or another footnote) by number, without recursion.


FT2.

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[mailto:wikien-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of George Herbert
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Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Why are URLs numbered?

On 9/5/07, Delirium <delirium at hackish.org> wrote:
> FT2 wrote:
> > 3. - auto-render all [http://link.com] as <ref>http://link.com</ref>.
It's
> > not perfect but the information's the best there is and its consistent
in
> > style.
> >
> >
> > I like #3.
> >
>
> That seems reasonable to me---that's usually what people mean by the
> inline links anyway (an assertion that their link constitutes a
> reference).  Of course someone should still come along and either: 1)
> expand them into a full citation (e.g. with {{cite web}}); or 2)
> determine that the link is not a reliable source, and either remove it
> or move it to the "external links" section. But we have to do that with
> links that are already in ref tags anyway.
>
> -Mark

That will mangle attempts to do standard administrative history and
link references in the context of an inline discussion on a talk or
notice page, though...


-- 
-george william herbert
george.herbert at gmail.com

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