[WikiEN-l] Is Slate an attack site?

[fredbaud at waterwiki.info]

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Gray [mailto:shimgray at gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 05:00 PM
To: 'English Wikipedia'
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Is Slate an attack site?

On 11/10/2007, fredbaud at waterwiki.info <fredbaud at waterwiki.info> wrote:

> >> Right, and that is where "the idiot" should have to look for it. It is
> >>inappropriate to trash our own users on our own site.
>
> >This is not seriously in dispute, as far as I can tell.
>
> That is exactly what is in dispute.

No, what is in dispute as what can be *defined* as "trashing our users
on our own site". No-one seriously discussing this supports making
vicious personal attacks against people, and it is both dishonest and
insulting to imply they do.

What people are trying to decide is

a) how we can best react when other people do it, or when other people
talk about people doing it, or when other people find themselves
inextricably linked with people doing it... and,

b) how far we stretch the definition of what it means to *make* such
an attack; whether alluding to or linking to one made by a third party
is considered making it oneself.

These are actually in dispute, and you don't get to redefine the terms
of the debate so anyone who disagrees, or has the temerity to argue
with a diktat, is trolling.

-- 
- Andrew Gray
  andrew.gray at dunelm.org.uk

Those who are engaging in this discussion in good faith are concerned with those questions. But those who advanced "Bad Sites" were certainly not. They were trying to confuse the issue.

Fred