[WikiEN-l] Templates for the masses

[Neil Harris]

Nick wrote:
> Personally, I'd rather see no further time wasted on templates, and editors
> time spent removing the need for these templates on as many different
> articles as possible. It's endless discussions on colours, decisions on
> changes and time editing these templates that could be much better spent
> adding references, fixing POV issues, dredging Flickr for free images and
> what not that has been wasted, in my opinion, on designing new templates.
>
> There's also a defeatist attitude here. There's some sort of bizarre thought
> that these templates are going to remain on articles for ever, maybe they
> are, but that's not the attitude we need here. Get them off pages as quickly
> as possible.
>
> I seem to keep repeating myself over and over again, but instead of tagging
> a dozen pages, why not fix half a dozen pages. I remind our newer users that
> references can be really, really quickly created with
> http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/makeref.php and I heartily recommend this
> for anybody who would like to help with referencing but can't. I blitzed
> British Airways a couple of weeks ago and was able to remove all but one of
> the citation needs tags with five or ten minutes, only one point took little
> longer to reference. So, don't tag when you can reference, wikify or
> dePOV-ify something yourself within the amount of time you have available.
>
> </rant>
>   

So, the citation tags worked as intended, then, by motivating you to 
replace them with the needed references?

-- Neil