[WikiEN-l] Templates for the masses

[cohesion]

I don't mind the new design, not great, but not bad either. An
improvement I think.

What I think the real issue here is though, are templates that don't
serve the reader. Nothing should be on the top of the page that we
don't need our *readers* seeing. The fact that an article has a trivia
section, or has too many inbound disambiguation links etc is important
only for housekeeping reasons.

If someone is willing to cleanup trivia sections, they are probably
very well aware of how the category system works.

If something is so bad we do want to have a disclaimer for readers
that's fine (npov, verifiability, etc) but for some things I agree,
it's just creep.

Nominate them for deletion, that's what that process is there for. :D

Judson
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cohesion