[WikiEN-l] Missed Opportunities to have avoided the Durova Case

[jayjg]

On Nov 30, 2007 9:28 AM, Wily D <wilydoppelganger at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 11/30/07, Guy Chapman aka JzG <guy.chapman at spamcop.net> wrote:
> > On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 07:31:12 +0000, "Relata Refero"
> > <refero.relata at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >> And to be clear here, what they agreed with was that yes, this
> > >> undoubtedly was indicative of a returning user.  Which, as we know,
> > >> is precisely the case.
> >
> > >How do you know that that was what they agreed with? Have you seen
> > >their personal communication on this subject with Durova?
> > >And if they read that 'evidence' and wrote enthusiastically to Durova
> > >"yes, definitely a WR troll! Good catch!", I'd like to know who these
> > >people are so I can examine their future admin actions a little more
> > >closely.
> >
> > I saw no emails that said /anything like/ "definitely a WR troll!
> > Good catch!"  I saw no emails indicating that Durova was considering
> > blocking !!.  No evidence has ever been produced that said emails
> > ever existed.  All we have is repeated demands that the obvious and
> > innocent explanation is not good enough, and calls for the emails
> > that don't exist.  But Alec can't have them because... they don't
> > exist.  Durova did not run the block by anybody, as far as I'm
> > aware; certainly not on the lists that everyone is so wound up
> > about.  I have checked.  None of her emails even hint at a likely
> > block.
>
> Durova has claimed she discussed the case in depth with five other
> editors - Guy, are you saying that Durova is a liar?

WilyD, Guy said "Durova did not run the block by anybody, AS FAR AS
I'M AWARE; certainly not on the lists that everyone is so wound up
about." (emphasis mine). Others have pointed out that "discussing the
case in depth" is not the same thing as proposing a block. In that
light, your statement appears, at best, to be an inflammatory non
sequitur, and certainly a classic example of the Fallacy of many
questions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy_of_many_questions).