[WikiEN-l] Missed Opportunities to have avoided the Durova Case

Bryan Derksen bryan.derksen at shaw.ca
Wed Nov 28 17:28:45 UTC 2007


jayjg wrote:
> On Nov 28, 2007 3:00 AM, Bryan Derksen <bryan.derksen at shaw.ca> wrote:
>> The
>> problem came when the private discussion was used to support direct
>> public actions while still being kept strictly private. If someone says
>> "I have evidence this is a sock puppet of a disruptive user," I want to
>> know what that evidence is before anything remotely like a ban is
>> considered. If they say "a bunch of other editors support me on this," I
>> want to know who they are or it's just meaningless noise.
> 
> I understand you are curious; but since it apparently has nothing to
> do with wikia hosted lists, why are you bringing it up on wikien-l?

Because the block happened on Wikipedia. That's the "public action" that
changed everything.

>> As far as I'm aware Durova's email containing the evidence that was used
>> as the basis for blocking !! is still thoroughly oversighted and
>> expunged from Wikipedia. It's silly that I actually had to go to
>> Wikitruth to find a copy of it.
> 
> Apparently Wikipedia's lawyer thinks that copyright law trumps your curiosity.

First I've heard that there's been any sort of official statement from
Wikipedia's lawyer. Is it posted publicly anywhere? I hope you'll
understand my skepticism under the circumstances.

Durova is perfectly capable of posting the email to Wikipedia herself,
everything else aside.

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