[WikiEN-l] Missed Opportunities to have avoided the Durova Case

[Kwan Ting Chan]

On Tue, 2007-11-27 at 11:37 -0800, Ray Saintonge wrote:   
> > It *is* actionable.  People have been desysopped for conspiring with banned
> > users.
> Bullshit!  Such an action merely gives greater weight to the content of 
> an article than to the person who wrote it.  Just as we don't accept 
> that editors should have ownership over an article, so too should we not 
> be granting ownership to the banned user.  By undeleting the article the 
> particular admin accepts responsibility for the contents of the article 
> irrespective of who originally wrote it.
> 
> Assuming that he is conspiring solely because of his undeletion requires 
> a significant assumption of bad faith.

But we do give (limited) ownership over an article to editors if the
article only substantial content was by that editor.

[[WP:CSD#G7]] - "'''Author requests deletion''', if requested in good
faith, and provided the page's only substantial content was added by its
author. ......"

It is clear policy that a page created by a banned user while they were
banned (with no substantial other edits) is a criteria for deletion.

[[WP:CSD#G5]] - "'''Banned user'''. Pages created by banned users
''while they were banned'', with no substantial edits by others."

If the admin knows full well that the request was made by a banned user
over an article the user created while banned, and was then deleted
under G5, then the admin is going against clear policy in carrying out
the undelete. In that case, it is not an assumption of bad faith to say
the admin is conspiring with a banned user to evade clear policy.

If one want to take responsibility for the content, then one can
recreate the article and post said content under their own name, giving
credit to the fact that it was originally by a banned user if
appropriate. 

KTC

-- 
Experience is a good school but the fees are high.
  - Heinrich Heine
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