[WikiEN-l] Missed Opportunities to have avoided the Durova Case

Alec Conroy alecmconroy at gmail.com
Tue Nov 27 09:19:11 UTC 2007


On 11/27/07, Guy Chapman aka JzG <guy.chapman at spamcop.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 00:42:44 -0500, "Alec Conroy"
> <alecmconroy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >So, for anyone who doesn't know, it's now come out that there was
> >basically a citizens "militia" of sorts that created secret mailing
> >lists where they coordinated their actions and presented secret
> >evidence against those suspected of being affiliated with a BADSITE.
>
> Absolute, pure, unmitigated bullshit.


Dude-- that's already been admitted to.   The list WAS secret--
Durova's email admits that.  The list DID involve secret evidence
against !!,  we know that. The list WAS made to help people coordinate
their efforts to manage harassment-- you just told me that yourself.
I'm not alleging anything hasn't been revealed already.

> This is a list that includes arbitrators and Jimbo and exists for
> the sole expressed purpose of helping people to better manage
> harassment.

If the two lists were so clear-cut appropriate, why were their
existence such a closely guarded  secret?

If it was totally above board, why wasn't the ENTIRE arbcom included
in the list--  why only send "secret evidence" to some arbiters,
rather than others, if not to 'stack the deck'?

If this behavior was so appropriate, why did the RFC against Durova go
so badly?  Is the community's opinion just not valid?  Has an ARMY of
ED trolls descended on the encyclopedia, posed for years at a time as
regular users, just so they could wait for an RFC against Durova to
magically cast off their loyal-wikipedian persona and criticize her
behavior in using the secret evidence on the secret list?

> You have been told this before, and yet you still posted this
> egregious trolling.  Way to go, Alec.

Thanks Guy--  I always know I can count on you to go personal attack.

Alec



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