[WikiEN-l] Trivia/Notability tag?

Steve Summit scs at eskimo.com
Sat Nov 24 18:23:43 UTC 2007


Ian Woollard wrote:
> ...Perhaps the real issue with trivia sections is that most of them are
> unreferenced as to their notability; while they clearly may be factually
> true, unless somebody has noted that they are important then they should be
> removed. Right?
>
> So, taking this to the logical conclusions, perhaps we need a notability
> tag, where somebody has to reference that something is notable...
>
> Comments?

Well, for one thing, we've got way too many of these cleanup tags
already.  See [[Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)#Editorial
banners at the top of pages are annoying and irrelevant to
subject matter]].

Second, I don't think the right standard for trivia is notability.
It's "interestingness", which of course is a notoriously difficult
concept to define.  One editor's interesting trivia is another's
banal fluff.

There's already a drive (accompanied by an annoying banner) to
eliminate trivia sections entirely.    I don't happen to agree
with that drive, but it makes a "notable trivia" tag sort of
doubly redundant: if the trivia sections are all eliminated,
we won't need to worry about their verified notability, but if
we asked for all trivia items to have their notability verified,
virtually none of them would pass (how can you cite such a
thing?), so they'd all be deleted, and we wouldn't need
Template:Trivia.

(Anyway, aren't "notable trivia" and "notably trivial" both
oxymorons? :-) )



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