[WikiEN-l] BADSITES redux

[jayjg]

On Nov 22, 2007 11:32 AM, David Gerard <dgerard at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 22/11/2007, jayjg <jayjg99 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Nov 21, 2007 8:02 PM, Steve Summit <scs at eskimo.com> wrote:
>
> > > What we truly do not need -- which BADSITES promoted, but which
> > > some people keep promoting under various guises -- is the notion
> > > that off-wiki harassment of a Wikipedia editor is such an
> > > uber-mortal sin that we should summarily ban all links to the
> > > harassing page and/or the harassing site and/or sites that link
> > > to the harassing page or the harassing site.  These extreme
> > > sanctions, which involve trampling on various other cherished
> > > Wikipedia policies and ideals, are what people were so upset
> > > about with BADSITES.  But the fact that people keep taking about
> > > (and exercising) similarly extreme sanctions is why BADSITES,
> > > despite protestations to the contrary, is still alive, whether
> > > under that name or some other.
> > > The defenders of the policies-they-don't-want-called-BADSITES
> > > keep claiming that their policies are not BADSITES, and that
> > > BADSITES is dead, and that stubborn insistence on debating
> > > BADSITES is distracting from the real work at hand.
>
> > Who on earth are you talking about here? I hope not me; I was never
> > involved in the original BADSITES strawman (never once made an edit to
> > the page or Talk: page), nor have I been involved in any of its
> > subsequent alleged re-incarnations, variations, alternatives, etc. Is
> > there someone in particular you are referring to?
>
>
> Go back a step, pretend Steve's email doesn't contain words matching
> /B?DS?T?S/ and see what you think of the notions presented therein and
> please respond with your views on their workability.

But it had the evil word in it, and it's still in the thread topic.
It's a well-known medical fact that any use of or exposure to that
word, or even reference to the original strawman, immediately shut
downs all rational thought on any wikien-l thread or Wikipedia Talk:
page discussion. ;-)