[WikiEN-l] Time to reboot wikien-l

[joshua.zelinsky at yale.edu]

Quoting Guy Chapman aka JzG <guy.chapman at spamcop.net>:

> On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:49:27 -0500, jayjg <jayjg99 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Just because the outcome is the same doesn't mean the reasoning for
>> doing so was the same. Crappy links are deleted for all sorts of
>> reasons, mostly because they're crappy, even if they would also have
>> been deleted under that strawman BADSITES policy.
>
> I can't help feeling this was the main aim of that whole strawman:
> to make it harder to remove crappy links *because they are crappy*.
> The main site active in this is, after all, spectacularly crappy.

A big issue here is what do you mean by crappy? We have a tremendous problem
with spam and other genuine crap. But by crappy do we mean links that 
otherwise
meet WP:EL and would be included but for the fact that the people who 
write them
are assholes who attack Wikipedians? Then we have a problem.